Perch placement advice needed
Ok the cages are 70% ready, I just need to add perches, sprinklers and lighting. But now I'm in dubio about where to place my perches. The cage size is L70 W60 H65 cm, L28 W24 H26 inch. They are meant for both ETB or GTP. I am planning on adding smaller side bars on some perches, not all. Some perches in the pictures are not the perch size that I plan on using often. They are just the first I cut and the thickest is only for pregnant females or extremely large basins. So please look through that. Also I think some people will say I have to cut it down to two perches. But I want to be able to use three perches in cages for sub-adults and then maybe remove one as they grow really big. These are my first idea's: Thank you all. Ps. Excuse my English.

Chris: I think that 3 perches are fine especially if they are staggered. What is the material you are using? Is it clear acrylic tubing? Do you plan to put in some cross members?

Thanks for the respons Steve. I used Acrylic indeed. It's prone to shatter, so Iguess I have to be extra carefull when adding the cross members. The visions you use are about the same size, so I was not sure if three perches was too much. I know basins need a lot of room when they are hunting/contricting/feeding. A question: Is there a reason that you chose to put the cross members off-centred/off balance. If you know what I mean by that.

Chris: The crossbars are off center to clear the plants in the back. I have designed a 3rd generation cage that Habitat Systems is fabricating. I should receive the prototype in the next few weeks. We have been working on this design for the last six months. It is quite a departure from my current setups with the Vision cages.

Jules: Pricing is not finalized yet. Tom and Pat of Habitat Systems have been really great to work with. Rico has also been involved in the design of the cages. These guys have put in a tremendous amount of time and resources on this project. Obviously, anyone is free to order the design after it is finalized. I am not involved in the sale of the cages nor do I receive any benefit other than having the ability to purchase the cages. Standby.

WOW nice, please keep us updated on that! Did you include the draining system and a drawer? I wanted to do that in my first cage plans but it was to troublesome in the building process, So I sticked with the rainchamber idea. By cross bars offcentred I kinda ment that they are sticking out more on one side then on the other. Or is that also plant related? Thank you.

Yes, that is correct. And no, the new cage design does not use water drawers or have a provision for a built in rain chamber.

Ok now you got me hyped :lol: And I would not keep water in a drawer on the floor of the cage for the same reasons you mention on your website. But more for easy cleaning.

GTChris, I think those perches are to slick and may be uncomfortable for your snakes. Just my 2 cents Ed M.

GTChris, I'm with Ed. I would consider a different material, or rough those up. Cage looks good though!

Ed thanks for the advice. I seriously thought about that and because pvc pipes are almost just as slick. I ruffened some of those up in my quarantine cages. Just to see if the snakes would prefer those. There was no noticeable effect. So I will see how they will react to the acrylic. If they fall more easily I will ruffen them up with sandpaper. Morelia-reptor in Asia uses them in there Snugle cages with good succes. The bonus next to pvc is you can see parts of there undersides without taking them of there perches. The pvc bonus btw is you can scorch them. But I do not plan on doing that so I chose acrylic.

GTChris, I don't think the problem will be falling off an arboreal snake has a tuff time falling of of anything. I just think the snakes feel like the have to use at least half of there body to hold on and never feel that secure on them. Its like you trying to sit comfortable on a sliding board, It aint easy!!!

I'm with Ed... These are tree snakes for Pete's sake... ditch the pvc/acrylic and get real branches... my 2 cents.. Rob